b"The idea that cash in hand is a viable legal functionspacewithprofessional Kathy Webboption! development training spaces. Using Zoom There is always going to be work under thecan be amusing. This is a funny story, but table,cash-in-hand.It'salwaysgoingtoKathy Webbone of my best nannies is a midwife. She's exist. But I think all parties are now awareI'msurethatthere'ssomelevelofthat raisedfiveboys,she'sdoneadiploma ofhowtherelationshipSHOULDbehappening here. There's going to be abuse coursewithme.She'sefficient, properly organized.of benefits all the time. compassionate,physicallyfit.Oneofthebest nannies on paper, but she has no idea Louise DunhamLouise DunhamhowtodoaZoominterview.Ididthe Thatmightbe,Kathy.Thistime,boththeOne of the virtues is we are back at a small entireconversationlookingdeepintoher parents and the nanny know they're doingbusiness at the moment. What has kept us ear. So, we have to teach these new Zoom the wrong thing.goingarethecharities,childprotection, interviewing skills.and the relationships we have built up with Kathy Webb them over the last 32 years. However, with Kathy Webb I think they probably know that now. Thatasmallergroupofpeople,I'vehadno Right? might be a difference in the last ten years. Ichoice but to get on the phone with the HR thinkmostofthemareaware.Thankstoperson to speak to each of the nannies for Louise Dunham Facebookgroupsandthingslikethat,Ififteen minutes once a month. I'm getting Because she's going to be up against the thinkthatmostnanniesareawarenow,on the phone and doing the in-home visits 23-year-old who can do a brilliant Zoom whetherthey'reinaSpanishspeakingtotheclients.It'sfantastic.Ilovebeing interview. nanniesgroupornannycarehuborhands-on again. whoever, I think most of them are aware ofKathy WebbKathy Webb atleasttherudimentsofwhattherulesI have to say our staff appears incredibly Right. 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