b"Kathy WebbKathy WebbIt was that failure to recognize that it mightYou know, au pairs in America didn't have Most people who have a house cleaner look generous, but nobody who needs fiftyto go home. In fact, some of them couldn't suspendedtheservicesduringthe hours could live on 20 hours.go home. Depends on what country they lockdown periods. camefrom.Somehavehadtooverstay Kathy Webbtheir visa because with the border closed, Louise DunhamThere are nannies who have nothing rightso what else could she do?It is the same perception of, Wow, you now. And they'll take anything, and I thinkknow, I didn't realize how hard it is to look thattherewillbepeoplewhowillcutAs to undocumented workers, I think maybe after children. corners. It's a threat to the legal workers. Ita third of their employers feel responsible remains to be seen. At one point, I thoughtand have stepped up to their responsibility, Kathy Webbsome of these people might end up goingbutIthinktwo-thirdsofthemjustsaid, I think the three biggest changes that I see back home.Sorry, bye. They saw them as disposable.are,first,theawarenessoflegalpay.Wherethat'sgoingtogo,Idon'tknow. And they probably dont have the money toLouise DunhamSecondistheworkplacehealthand get home now. A lot of these workers sendSo,youdon'tthinkthattheworldhas hygieneaspect,andwhatyou'recalling money back home, right? Remittances thatbecome a kinder, gentler place? radical transparency. Everyone needs to be go back every week. And, I don't know howonthesamepageandbemutually they're doing it. I don't know how they'reKathy Webbrespectfulof,youknow,whattheother's stillpayingfortheirrent.Andifyou'reaNo. feelings are. And that it is lifesaving. It's not cleaningwomanwhocleanshousesandjust kind and polite, it's actually lifesaving. you clean ten houses a week, and you'reLouise DunhamAnd the last is the whole sea change that making $1,000 doing it, and then suddenly,I'm sticking to that line, Kathy. That's fine. workingwithwork-at-homeparentsis you're down to cleaning two houses a weekbecauseeveryoneelseisafraidoftheKathy Webbgoing to create on people's jobs. Those are COVID. How are you sending money backThat's not what I see and hear. the three big takeaways that I got out of home to pay for your kids' schooling?this. Louise Dunham Louise Dunham Anything else we want to cover in the Louise Dunham And that is our other observation. A hugenanny world? Yeah,thoughItakeyouropposite armyofdesperate,unemployedpeopleviewpoint on being kind. Even if it is not that will take any job at any price. This isKathy Webbtrue, it should be. the nightmare stuff.How about when nannies and family shareworkspace? Thats a big change. So many Kathy WebbI also have said to our nannies, You arenannies swore they were never ever going Well, you'll get no argument from me there. the cream of the crop. You've got to maketoworkwithafamilythathasaparent I'vejustheardtoomanynannieswith sure that you're polished and ready to go.working from home, and they suddenly find stories along the lines of, I can't believe I Becausetherearegoingtobepeoplethatthatsexactlyhowtheyareworking worked for them for three-and-a-half years wanting your jobs and they will be cheaper.now.Orafamilythathasbothparents and they told me that they will pay me for You've got to be articulate as to why youworking from home. two more weeks and I'm done. are a better choice. Louise DunhamLouise Dunham Louise Dunham Yes, I have many nannies who used to say We had a client, a lovely woman, and she Well,Ithinkwe'vefixedtheevilsofthetheywillnotworkforafamilywhenthe said right from the start, Now I'm going to nanny world. I'm fine if we've got differingparent is at home. If nannies want to work, pay my nanny fifty hours a week still, okay? opinions.these stipulations need to be revised. And But eventually, it dropped down to twentythey are going to need to accept that most hours and the nanny was in contact with Kathy Webb parents are working from home now. mesaying,Icannotsurviveontwenty Yeah,that'sfine.That'swhatmakesthehours pay a week. I don't have to go in, but world go around.Kathy Webbshe thinks she's doing me a favor. I think that if you wanted observations, thatis a huge sea change. I also think that thefamilies that let the nanny go on furloughduringthestay-at-homeordershaveabetter conception of what the nannys jobis and how much the nanny actually does.Louise Dunham Oh, I've heard that from numerous businesscolleagueswhosay,Ican'tbelievehowhard it is to work from home with bothkids here.16 WINTER 2020|NannyMag.com"